Doug I have questions
have you tried any classic longevity inducing substances like say
L-Carnosine or DMAE?
and
Your low total calorie diet.. If I were doing this I would get most of my
calories from protein and "good fats", and skip the carbs where I could,
because I think it would tend to keep my endocrine system healthier
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Skrecky" <oberon@vcn.bc.ca>
To: <extropians-digest@extropy.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: 43'rd update on fly longevity experiments (&food satiation exprts)
> This is the 43'rd update of my fly longevity experiments. Except where
> indicated 1/2 tsp citric acid was added to all bottles. I decided to
> retest a variety of doses of citric acid, since I was not convinced that
> dosage really matter at >1/4 tsp. The present results confirm dosage is
> unimportant, and that variations in longevity are due to chance.
> I also tested a variety of teas. The most bitter of these was yin hong
> tea, and it as well as eucommia appear to be the only ones that were
> significantly toxic.
>
>
> Run #43 Percent Survival on Day
> supplement 9 15 21 26 31 36 43 47 52 57 62 68 73 77
> ____________________________________________________________________
> citric acid 1/4 tsp 100 100 96 88 88 79 50 38 38 25 8 0 - -
> citric acid 1/2 tsp 100 100 96 88 88 76 32 8 4 0 - - - -
> citric acid 1 tsp 96 93 93 93 89 74 63 52 41 22 7 0 - -
> blood sugar reducing tea 85 88 85 77 65 58 50 46 27 15 8 4 0 -
> chrysanthemum tea 89 86 80 77 69 54 34 23 20 11 6 6 3 0
> herbal diuretic tea 91 91 89 83 77 71 57 54 31 14 6 0 - -
> eucommia tea 74 74 74 74 70 52 30 17 9 4 0 - - -
> yin hong tea 83 76 62 45 34 24 14 10 10 0 - - - -
>
>
> This is the third update on my food satiation experiments, in which I
> compare my ad libitum calorie intake of various foods over a period of
> one day.
> I tried drinking Lucerne 2% chocolate milk to see how this compared
> with Astro's sugar free no fat fruit yogurts. The chocolate milk tasted
> good, but the lack of variety placed this in the middle palatability
> group. Despite this reduction in liking, I glugged 2100 calories of choco
> milk. On a per liter basis the sugar sweetened chocolate milk came with
> 700 calories, which is 65% higher than the caloric density (424
> cals/liter) of the sugar free no fat yogurt. I strongly suspect that this
> increased density accounted for the 42% higher calorie intake. It amazes
> me how many calories sugar can add to foods. For example I found that
> sweetened apple sauce contains double the calories of unsweetened apple
> sauce.
> I next tried Astro's 1% fat sugar sweetened yogurt. I found this to be
> less sweet than the no fat yogurt, and also it has less fruit, but more
> calories (936 cals/liter). Again despite the lower palatability I ate 2354
> calories of this yogurt! Sugar calories are evidentally quite dangerous to
> my waistline. Caloric density of liquid palatable foods has a dramatic
> effect on my ad libitum intake. This is in marked contrast the complete
> irrelevance of density to intake of low palatability foods. Indeed I can
> not convince myself that any food characteristic has a consistent effect
> on intake of low palatability foods. Without the lure of taste, my only
> motivation to eat appears to be to ingest the minimum calories my body
> needs to survive, which seems to be about 1500 calories/day.
>
>
> (LOW PALATABILITY)
> FOOD DAILY CALORIE INTAKE
> ___________________________________________
> rye bread 1388
> apple, Gala 1413
> chicken breast 1478
> rye crispbread 1564
> vegetables/cottage cheese 1768
> potato 2179 (skipped lunch next day)
>
>
> (Medium PALATABILITY)
> FOOD DAILY CALORIE INTAKE
> ___________________________________________
> yogurt, fruit, no sugar & Gala apples 1976
> 2% fat chocolate milk 2100
> yogurt, fruit, sugar 2354
> peanuts 2689 (malabsorption)
>
>
> (HIGH PALATABILITY)
> FOOD DAILY CALORIE INTAKE
> ___________________________________________
> yogurt, fruit, no sugar 1483
> cookies & chili 4055
>
>
>
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