Clueless vandals are nearly untraceable now, (script kiddies) should we ban
Linux for conspiring to destroy TCP/IP?
instead of seeking a safe n' sane padded room solution, how about just not
initializing untrusted executable files in email etc.?
almost every Virus/Trojan/Backdoor could be prevented by user actions or
inversely by avoidance of user error, there are other sandboxing methods
available as well.
here open this! bradpittnekkid.jpg.com.exe.bat.scr
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam English" <miriam@werple.net.au>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: FWD (TLCB) The Death of TCP/IP - Why the Age of Internet
Innocence is Over
> At 11:25 AM 10/08/2001 -0700, Robert Coyote wrote:
> >IMHO This Guy is full of C*AP
> >We already have "identifiers"
> >its the MAC address, and IP of the packets
> >how do you think they found the creator of Melissa?
>
> The problem is that the identifiers can be forged in raw sockets.
> The idiot who wrote Melissa was a clueless vandal. When WindowsXP comes on
> the market even clueless vandals will be untraceable.
>
>
> >Raw sockets exist in linux and bsd, why not form a global domination
> >conspiracy theory about that?
>
> Unix variants require superuser status to gain access to raw sockets (as
> far as I know) and viruses would not have that access. MS operating
systems
> generally don't have such security in their operating systems -- certainly
> WindowsXP won't. Any mad piece of code would have full access to the
> complete power of raw sockets. ("Hey little kiddy, why don't you play with
> this nice pretty hand grenade.")
>
>
> >Robert Coyote
> > Software Entomologist
> > usually well informed.
>
> But maybe not this time. :-)
>
>
> >0xD300AD7F
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Terry W. Colvin" <fortean1@mindspring.com>
> >To: "Electronic Warfare" <ewar@topica.com>; "Forteana [Alternate Orphan]"
> ><forteana@egroups.com>; <extropians@extropy.org>
> >Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:52 AM
> >Subject: FWD (TLCB) The Death of TCP/IP - Why the Age of Internet
Innocence
> >is Over
> >
> >
> > > There' a good opinion-piece on the future of the internet, by Bob
> >Cringely.
> > > He's usually well informed.
> > >
> > > < http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html >
> > >
> > > Chris Jeppeson
> > >
> > > --
> > > Terry W. Colvin, Sierra Vista, Arizona (USA) < fortean1@mindspring.com
>
> > > Alternate: < terry_colvin@hotmail.com >
> > > Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/8958/index.html
>
> > > Sites: Fortean Times * Northwest Mysteries * Mystic's Cyberpage *
> > > TLCB * U.S. Message Text Formatting (USMTF) Program
> > > ------------
> > > Member: Thailand-Laos-Cambodia Brotherhood (TLCB) Mailing List
> > > TLCB Web Site: < http://www.tlc-brotherhood.org >[Vietnam veterans,
> > > Allies, and CIA/NSA are welcome]
> > >
>
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