Re: Tolerance for Dissent on Extropians

From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Wed Aug 08 2001 - 13:06:12 MDT


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> Brian D Williams <talon57@well.com> extropians@extropy.org Re: Tolerance for Dissent on ExtropiansReply-To: extropians@extropy.org
>
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>>From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com>
>
>>> Brian D Williams <talon57@well.com>
>
>>>As usual Joe your story keeps changing, first it was you that
>>>received 1200 hostile emails in three days, now it was supposedly
>>>the list that received such E-mails.
>>
>>>Everyone on this list knows no such event ever occurred.
>>
>>>You've been personally invited to join the exi-freedom list but
>>>you never have, that's because what you would be missing is your
>>>audience.
>>
>>>By the way, name-calling is against list rules.....
>>
>
>>I'm quite sure that the exi-freedom list is indeed free of dissent
>>and ieologically monochromatic. But, on to the attack, for which
>>I still hold bitter memories... First of all, many on the list
>>know such an event DID occur; the public record of it is in the
>>list archives, and during the e-siege I received several private
>>emails of support from people who were terrorized to go public
>>with such support (which was indeed, I believe, the intention).
>>Many of the people who were present for it are still subscribed,
>>and their memories have not failed them, whether or not thay have
>>the courage to connect those memories to their fingers. Perhaps
>>your gambit, Mr. NRA, is to re-marshall the original gang/pack and
>>force a confrontational choice - toss the whole gang, or just toss
>>me - hoping that numbers will trump the fairness and justice of
>>who is objectively and provably correct in the matter.
>>Thusly another droogie who was involved in the original
>>perpetration chimes in; it's like deja vu redux.
>
><point of personnal privilege>
>
>Joe, I welcome anyone checking the archives, your story (1200 e-
>mails in three days) is a complete fabrication.
>
>I went to considerable lengths onetime to post a list demonstrating
>that there is an existing federal gun control law covering everyone
>of your objections.
>
But no databases to enforce them, such as I proposed (a purchase-prohibited database including violent criminals and the mentally defective and/or deranged), which would make it harder for the irresponsibles more likely to backshoot to obtain the quick and easy means to committ long-range mass murder, while still preserving the rights of sane and law-abiding citizens to purchase, keep and bear in anonymity (unregistered).
>
>You decided to completely ignore this and go off on a rant about
>gun shows instead.
>
Columbine (and the purchase of weapons used in it at a gun show) had a lot to do with the tenor of that time, and sales at gun shows, flea markets and pawn shops should have to go through the same checking and verification procedures that gun shops are expected to observe; the loophole should be closed. Eve John McCain agrees with this.
>
>You continue to rant, and name call when its been pointed out
>numerous times this is against list rules.
>
And 'socialist', 'collectivist', 'statist', 'pinko', and the rest of the RW club's preferred list of epithets do not qualify, hmmmm?
>
>Typical Joe Dees tactics. Your actions speak for themselves.
>
As have yours and those of your droogz.
>
>I saw something interesting in one of your other posts though, you
>claim to be a former Veteran. Please elaborate, this will be an
>easy thing to check.
>
Done in another post. And were you ever in the military? Howzabout Mikey and the rest of the Flak Pack?
>
>Brian
>
>Member:
>Extropy Institute, www.extropy.org
>National Rifle Association, www.nra.org, 1.800.672.3888
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