From: "Brian D Williams" <talon57@well.com>
>
> I think your mixing issues here, slavery and its end is a
> completely different issue then as you put it "de jure segregation"
> is.
I know what the issues are and how they are different. I did not mention
anything about reparations. I was talking about bigotry, and how it neither
ended with slavery nor magically go away "7 generations" ago.
> What about voluntary segregation?
It's your right to hang around with anyone you want. But public schools
should not bar children of a certain color from attending. And hospitals
shouldn't have a policy of barring people of a certain color from receiving
treatment. And public pools should not be for "whites only." Etcetera.
> In the attempt to correct past and current issues about race,
> otherwise well meaning individuals have created new ones as any
> white male can tell you.
>
> There is current discrimination against white males, which we are
> not going to ignore as we address these issues.
Hey, I've read Warren Farrell, myself. Certain biases against men, women,
ugly people, short people, fat people, poor people (and on and on and on)
exist, and those are all different subjects in their own right (but cannot
BEGIN to touch the subject of "white on black" racism that has existed in
our country). As to the "any white male can tell you" - all right, let's
start with the white alpha male currently residing in the White (no pun
intended) House - can he tell me the terrible trials and tribulations he's
gone through on his road to recove...eh, I mean, on his road to the White
House? I wonder. Wouldn't he qualify as an "any" male? Any white male,
you say, huh? (Get serious!)
> One of the problems is that we have not agreed on what "racism and
> Racist" mean on this list. There are for example those who claim it
> has only to do with genetics.
It has to do with history, primarily. "Race" is not a scientific reality,
but a social enigma.
Olga
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