Re: Don't Forget To Upload The ENS

From: Anders Sandberg (
Date: Sun Jul 22 2001 - 15:13:31 MDT

On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 11:59:34AM -0400, wrote:
> In a message dated 7/22/2001 6:16:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
> << Better: upload someone, and ask the *upload* if it thinks it feels like
> before. >>
> What you've done here, is merely to create a clone, whose experiences will
> soon vastly diverge from the original, living, being. This, to me is
> unsatisfactory, since all he, she, or it, is a carbon copy. Not good. Why not
> good? Because it messes with Pattern Identity Theory, now there are two
> patterns, one which is less valid then the other, the copy. If the original's
> electrons (?) were transmitted to the Magic Eternal-Life Network; and there
> was no living being left behind, that would be what we need.

Huh? I believe in pattern identity theory and functionalism, but I don't
see any pattern as more or less valid than any other. What this thought
experiment was really about is how to tell whether the upload is
acceptable from the point of view of the person being uploaded. I'm not
getting into the issue of whether the upload is the original or not,
that is a completely separate issue with no real answer.

Anders Sandberg                                      Towards Ascension!                  
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