>From: Samantha Atkins <samantha@objectent.com>
>Zero Powers wrote:
>
> > I realize that is not reason enough to claim that it must have been
>built by
> > Jehovah (Allah, Jesus, fill in the blank). But some time back, before
>the
> > big bang, before the first of perhaps almost infinitely many big bangs,
> > there was a *first* cause.
> >
>
>Really? What if causality itself is a casualty of real understanding of
>physics? What if it is just another thing that is true from a certain
>point of view in rather delimited circumstances. At the least it is all
>bound up in that "time" thing which is all bound up with "space" which
>is actually finite and did not exist in any really meaningful way before
>the Big Bang inflated it.
Time and space may well have existed before the big bang. They didn't exist
in a "meaningful" way for *us* because *we* have no way of determining
anything about them from this side of the big bang. That does not mean they
did not exist, only that *we* can no nothing about them.
-Zero
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