John Clark wrote:
>
> Michael S. Lorrey <retroman@turbont.net> Wrote;
>
> >>Me:
> >>Please explain how a gamma ray photon could blow a radio photon away.
>
> > Gamma ray photon hits radio photon, cancels out energy of said photon, or merly
> > knocks it down to a lower frequency (or up to a higher frequency). If the signal
> > is frequency modulated, your signal loses resolution.
>
> No. Gamma ray and radio photons are both bosons, they have integer spin so they
> are not bound by The Pauli Exclusion Principle. Two photons can be in the same
> quantum state but no two particles with half integer spin, like electrons, can be.
> It's a good thing that things don't work as you suggest, if photons had half integer spins
> and thus could not be in the same place at the same time then you couldn't see the moon
> or the stars or even the man sitting next to you. Photons from an object you wanted to look
> at would collide and be hopelessly scrambled by photons moving at right angles to them.
> You'd be blind as a bat.
Really? Then please oh please ESPLAIN to me how it is that things like
interference patterns, scalar waves, signal interference, EMI and AMC work
unless you have one photon interfering with another....
>
> Well ok, I have heard of some theoretical work that if the Gamma rays were intense enough,
> and I mean intense, the sort of thing you only find near a black hole or Gamma ray burster, then
> there might be a little scattering, but if you're that near a Gamma ray burster the fact that your
> communication network is not working at optimal performance will be the least of your worries.
What does the gamma flux gradient need to be to do this? Can it occur simply as
a matter of the wave front of a GRB wiping out signals?
>
> > Ever heard of radar jamming, john?
>
> What do you think?
I should hope so. Now, think about what natural phenomena act in ways similar to
radar jamming....
>
> > You just are not making your neutradio from the right materials, obviously.
>
> If I give you a magic material that stops neutrinos for your neutradio then you have
> to give me a magic material that can stop neutrinos before they ever get to you.
> Why all this neutrino business, radio works just fine, if it's nor broken don't fix it.
Partly because we know it annoys you John. Also, because we know that most
natural processes we are aware of are NOT capable of interfering with neutrino
emissions in any significant way, so theoretically, a neutrino signal should be
receivable with the right equipment across the universe. Of course, you also
have to deal with the neutrino signal strength being higher than the background
noise and stronger than any nearby sources. Moreover, any planetary neutrino
source is likely to be far less than the neutrino source of the planet's star,
so you are still dealing with problems of signal strength. The only advantage is
that neutrinos tend not to futz with one another, anywhere near as much as
photons would.
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