Re: Money 1, Justice 0: .

From: phil osborn (philosborn@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Sep 06 2000 - 22:23:38 MDT


>From: "John Clark" <jonkc@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Re: Money 1, Justice 0: .
>Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:53:06 -0400
>

>Apologies to the long time members of the list, I've said all this before.
>
> John K Clark jonkc@att.net
>
Ah, very well presented. This is the essense of the anarcho-capitalist
position as I understood it circu 1969. And it's still correct. The only
difference is that now we actually have the means to get from here to there.
  In the '60's thru the early '80's, I think that most of us were still
counting on the catastrophic collapse of the state, burying our barrels of
red wheat, etc., and planning to be the anarchist vanguard after the deluge.

However, people and civilizations have stumbled along in spite of the state
for a very long time. The state poses some increased danger now that the
costs of wiping out the species via bioweapons, etc. has become real and is
falling exponentially in cost. I don't see the state as being capable of
providing the level of security, surveillance, etc., necessary to ultimately
counter these threats, especially as a very high percentage of the threat
factor comes from state-engendered conflict to begin with.

Thus, survival itself will likely ultimately hinge upon replacing the
monopoly coercive state with something better. Maybe the first SI will
instantly - from our perspective - solve this. Meanwhile, not counting on
that, I suggest we look for ways to leverage the information revolution to
provide services here and now that capitalize on the state's fundamental
weaknesses - such as my proposed social contract.
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