Jamrio Miller wrote:
> >
> I am sorry if my last post has been upsetting to all of you. However,
> if you carefully read what I said in the part that triggered your
> reactions, it was the following:
>
> "I know from personal research that several extropians or transhumanists
> are guilty of ....
Read your own writing. You are specifically NOT saying that these are
allegations, nor are you posting your sources. You are making claims as to
actual facts. To claim that you are not doing so is a lie.
>
> In other words, I said I had come across a verbal accusation from a trusted source. I openly admit that I do not at this point have legal evidence, but have strong enough indications to make me suspicious or curious.
No, you said "I know", not "I've read reports" or "I've seen allegations". These
are very different things. You also say 'are guilty', not 'alleged'. These are
also very different things.
>
> When I bring this up here, I get attacked, pushed into weird pseudo-philosophical corners and threatened with all kinds of legal and semi-legal attacks.
> One poster in fact goes as far as using the word "lynch". All I hear from Mr More is I am a liar and he wants to sue me. Others want to remove the whole thread from the archive, thereby censoring free speech.
Free speech does not include the right to scream FIRE in a theater.
>
> The whole outrage is not directed at the despicable action I wonder about, but against my wondering in public. And then you are surprised that I do not wish to reveal my identity at this point?
Unjustly accusing a person of a despicable crime is one of the cardinal sins of
our civilization. Since we know Max, and you, as far as we are concerned, are
absolutely nobody, it is you upon whom the outrage rests and the burden of proof
lies.
>
> It's not that I don't agree that there could have possibly been a better way to sort this out. I simply did not foresee the fury I created, and for this I am sorry.
Bullshit. If it was unintentional, then you must be functionally illiterate with
the IQ of a casava melon.
>
> If the rumor is false, and if Mr More is not in support of such behavior, all that is necessary is a clear statement to that effect, not retaliation for an imagined wrong. All this excitement only makes me wonder...
Ah bullshit again. You're just trying to keep the friggin thing going.
Here's some info about where this Bozo is posting from, and the relatively close
proximity of significant Scientologist facilities:
2 miles away:
HGB, the Hollywood Guarranty Building, a twelve story office building at
Hollywood Boulevard and Ivar formerly owned by the Bank of America. It is an old
building that was constructed in the 1920s and purchased by Scientology with
cash in the mid-'80s. All International management (upper middle management
above continents and below *INT* - see Int) is located in this building. It is a
twenty minute walk from the Cedars Complex, and houses IHELP, OSA Int, and the
CMO IXU (Internal eXtension Unit), WISE Int, ABLE Int, and more. The various
orgs on different floors in 1993 looked like this: 12th floor - OSA Int
(includes office of the President of CSI). 11th - CMO IXU, AVU Int, confidential
space. 10th - FCB, Networks. 9th - FB. 8th - FB, IHELP Int, SMI Int. 7th - WISE
Int, ABLE Int. 6th - Dining room, canteen. 5th through 1st - ITO. 1st - LRH
Exhibit, lobby. Basement - HGB Estates, FB's mimeo collection, INCOMM office.
Other locations:
~2000 feet from the Los Feliz Library
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY ADVANCED ORGANIZATION
1404 N CATALINA ST, LOS ANGELES, CA 90027
Phone: (323) 953-3200
Less than 1 mile away:
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY CELEBRITY CENTER INTERNATL
5930 FRANKLIN AVE, LOS ANGELES, CA 90028
Phone: (323) 960-3100
(This is the HGB Building referenced above:)
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL
6331 HOLLYWOOD BLVD STE 801, LOS ANGELES, CA 90028
Phone: (323) 960-3500
~2000 feet from the Los Feliz library:
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY LOS ANGELES
4810 W SUNSET BLVD, LOS ANGELES, CA 90027
Phone: (323) 953-3200
Four blocks from HGB:
SCIENTOLOGY CHURCH OF TESTING CENTER
6724 HOLLYWOOD BLVD, LOS ANGELES, CA 90028
Phone: (323) 465-8515
It seems to me as though there is significant support for the Co$ theory. There
is no listing at www.whitepages.com for a 'Jamrio Miller', though there are a
number of 'J Miller' listings in the Hollywood area. There is a James R Miller
in the 90024 zip code.
Here is a challenge: retract your statement in its entirety, and post the
'trusted sources' you claim are making the accusations so that they may be
examined as any evidence properly should be.
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