Re: Why we believe (was: fishing with the seventh seal)

From: \[ Robert-Coyote \] (
Date: Wed Jul 05 2000 - 12:52:49 MDT

Yes enrapture and awe of the esthetic environment, as you say, can induce
what some would call "spiritual experience", consider the scent of fresh
baked bread =]

But in distinction I belive, for lack of better words... a metaphysical or
extra-dimensional reality, some kind of hyperspace, that is somehow
strangely effectual in this 3D world, I however do not buy into any canned
prefabricated explanations, as it could be literally incomprehensible, as
much as a fish in a fishbowl trying to understand a television.

I experience "phenomena", sometimes with witnesses and corroborative
evidence, I seek understanding.


What is the difference between being "spiritually" inclined and just
having a grand appreciation for your life and the reality you currently
inhabit? Many people I've talked to often claim a sense of spirituality
without belief in some higher Creator/Supreme Being. Upon probing, what
I've found is simply that they appreciate the complexity and the beauty
of their environment (internal and external) without reference to some
all-powerful deity. So, my question would then be, why use the loaded
term spiritual, when really, you mean simple appreciation for your
circumstances (whatever you perceive/believe them to be)?


"[ Robert-Coyote ]" wrote:
> You might clarify this by explaining why you unnecessarily conjoin belief
> a spiritual reality with a belief in god, as one could have a belief in a
> spiritual reality without believing in god (I do)

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