Re: Ancestral Extropians?

Lee Daniel Crocker (
Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:24:02 -0700 (PDT)

> >Don't take it as an insult. Men in general will not admit it in public,
> >especially, I predict, American men, but women are on the whole perceived as
> >annoyingly superficial with a one-track "social probe" masquerading as a
> >mind. The guy that said "you don't count" was probably referring to the fact
> >that you seem more intelligent and insightful than women usually are.
> Mr. Harris, you might consider apologizing for this rude and thoughtless
> commentary. This type of generalization is shallow and archaic. Perhaps
> the "American" men you associate with are hear about are baboons, but men
> in general have higher standards of thought and perception than to be mired
> in the back hills of illiteracy and social stupidity.

Don't you dare apologize, Mr. Harris. While I and many other more rational men have a great respect for the minds and talents of women, the attitude you describe /does/ exist, and your simple, honest reporting of that fact is far more likely to lead to solutions than is Natasha's misplaced indignation.

There is a problem in our culture (though probably less in ours than in most others, especially in recent years) that traits like competence and ambition aren't seen as "feminine". This is a bad thing, and should be addressed. Role models are a good start: Madonna comes to mind as someone who changed a lot of attitudes for the better. Let's hope many more come along.

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