Re: Memes - more information please...

delriviere christophe (mich@thehzone.tzo.org)
Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:58:30 +0200

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De : O'Regan, Emlyn <Emlyn.ORegan@actew.com.au> : 'extropians@extropy.com' <extropians@extropy.com> Date : mercredi 9 juin 1999 2:38
Objet : RE: Memes - more information please...

>> ;)) ... When the machines rule the world and if they decide to entertain
>> humans in some kind of zoo I will ask them to implement for me a
>> girlfriend
>> with a good amount of your intellectual and humoristic characteristics
>> ;)...
>> please keep some datas so that i can ask you some additional
>> specifications
>> if needed..
>>
>Just to register this on the list again, I am a bouncing, blue eyed boy.
>
>I'm sorry everyone keeps taking me to be female,

I was aware that you present yourself as a male ;)... I was only interested by extracting some interesting stuff and characteristics of your external behavior to build something i would be very pleased with... a female ;))..
I've written nowhere a supposition of your gender... i'm not too much interested about that for mailing lists or text communications.

maybe my communication
>style is too effeminate?

now that you mention it, perhaps it's one of the reason I was thinking about that...;)
your reaction is interesting... i should have forcasted that ;)...

>Actually this doesn't bother me personally - it's actually really
>interesting to be in a position like this. It is a good example of the
>elusiveness of identity in fact. For example, in a purely text-based
>relationship, how is physical gender really relevant? In fact, how many of
>the components of your identity really have relevance in such a context.

completly in agreement.
>
>We talk a lot about the unknowable post-singularity transhuman future, and
>few people conceptualise themselves as having a body in any recognisable,
>human sense at all. What then of gender? Will I, born in the 20th century,
>but living 10,000 years in the future (hoping), with a distributed
>intelligence across planets or built into an interstellar vessel, or
>uploaded into a nano-scale brain, still conceive of myself as male? Still
>even conceive of myself as a single entity?
>
>But for now anyway, XY all the way.

if we are not gathered in some kind of museum zoo and that we keep to improve ourselves, gender will not have any sense for the paths I would like. Excepts perhaps for some moments of intense sharing of materials and knowledge... but it would just be a question of interpretation...
>
>Emlyn
>PS: You're still welcome to use me as an intellectual model for your robot
>girlfriend - it's just so perverse, I like it.

no perversion intended ... if the robot is build so that she's happy in the situation ;=)