Re: Property Rights

Joe E. Dees (
Thu, 27 May 1999 14:30:43 -0500

Date sent:      	Thu, 27 May 1999 05:08:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:        	Re: Property Rights
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> Joe E. Dees [] wrote:
> >Nix to the
> >mentally disturbes, children, felons, abusive spouses.
> So where exactly does the Second Amendment say 'the right to keep and bear
> arms shall not be infringed except for mentally disturbed, children, felons
> and abusives spouses'? I don't see it there, I can only assume you have a
> different version of the Constitution to me. The states can probably pass
> such laws, but any Federal disarmament laws are utterly unconstitutional.
Lemme get this straight: you WANT the above people to have guns? Then yours would definitely be taken away, because you are clearly one deranged fuckwad!
> >You keep on trotting out that old tired slippery
> >slope domino theory; "If we let them do the rational and reasonable
> >thing today, who knows where it may lead?"
> Victim disarmament is neither rational nor reasonable, and almost every
> country which has imposed registration of guns (and background checks are
> registration by default) has gone on to ban and confiscate many or most
> of those registered guns. Most gun owners are reasonable people, and have
> been willing to accept 'reasonable' infringements on their rights... and
> you know what? The disarmers continually come back with just one more
> 'reasonable' infringement to add to the list until all rights are gone;
> their desire to completely ban private ownership of guns is hardly a
> secret. This will only stop when gun owners stand up and stop being
> 'reasonable'.
You took leave of your reason behind long ago; other countries haven't had 2nd Amendments, so you can't in good conscience use them as feasible models (but when did your conscience ever stop you, ay?).
> >What part of "general
> >welfare" do you not understand?
> Ok Joe, since you're the Constitutional expert, you explain just what
> 'general welfare' means in the context it's used in the Constitution.
"Promote the general welfare" basically means to maximize the perpetuation of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness within the general populace; I note that the first of these is life, which a bullet to the head or heart irretrievably abridges.
> Mark