Re: -=A Couple Q's=-

Scott Badger (wbadger@psyberlink.net)
Sat, 8 May 1999 08:03:16 -0500

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robot wrote:

>I have a couple q's i would like to have cleared up. First off i = would like to know what is the ultimate goal of the post human form.<

First, there will likely be multiple post-human forms and any = particular form should be free to alter its form if it so desires. = Second, how would we know what their ultimate goals are going to be? We = would hope that they would value rationality, knowledge aquisition, and = freedom for starters.

>I hear talk about over population, econimic gitchs due to = immortality, ect.<

I will trade immortality for economic glitches all day long. And = overpopulation will be a problem eventually anyway.

>It seems to me that the whole point of becoming post-human is to = break the limitaions of human restriction;<=20

It's one of the points.

>and there have been statements about future issues due to = transhumanism that are already human issues right now.<=20

Yes, our set of problems will not be entirely new.

>My second q is that of the emotion that a human experiences. What is = the relevance of an emotion in post-human form?<=20

Once again, I'm guessing that we will speciate and there will be = multiple post-human forms, some that have decided to keep human-type = emotions (though probably enhanced/customized), some that won't.

>Any info/links on emotion studys would be great.<=20

http://www.unige.ch/fapse/emotion/welcome.html

http://www.ki.se/cns/news/amygdala-e.html

http://www.consciousness.arizona.edu/emotionfeb99.html

>Lastly, what are your views on the collective whole?<

You mean becoming Borg-like? I see partial collectives as very likely. = Hopefully the indvidual will always be able to disconnect and be a free = agent though. It is also pretty feasible, I'm guessing, for an = individual to make whole/partial copies/agents and become his/her/its = own collective/distributed intelligence.

>On an aside, i must highly recommend some music due to the fact of = the artists mastery of the machine as a musical tool. Some some of the = best artists out there doing this are; Aphex Twin, Autechre, Square = Pusher, Jega, and Bola. If you wish to learn more about this music, = check out www.warp.net. or contact me @ my personal e-mail = (robot@neo.lrun.com) to gain access to my mp3 site w/ 12 gigs worth of = IDM (the name of the future music style). Its great stuff.... ;)<

Why not just go ahead and give us your web-site with the music files? = There's nothing at www.warp.net except an e-mail link.

Scott

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robot =20 wrote:
>I have a couple q's i would like to have cleared up. = First=20 off i would like to know what is the ultimate goal of the post human=20 form.<
 
First, there will likely be multiple = post-human forms=20 and any particular form should be free to alter its form if it so=20 desires.  Second, how would we know what their ultimate = goals are=20 going to be?  We would hope that they would value rationality, = knowledge=20 aquisition, and freedom for starters.
 
>I hear talk about over population, econimic gitchs due to=20 immortality, ect.<
 
I will trade immortality for = economic glitches=20 all day long.  And overpopulation will be a problem eventually=20 anyway.
 
>It seems to me that the whole point of becoming post-human is = to=20 break the limitaions of human restriction;<
 
It's one of the points.
 
>and there have been statements about future issues due to=20 transhumanism that are already human issues right now.<
 
Yes, our set of problems will not be entirely=20 new.
 
>My second q is that of the emotion that a human experiences. = What is=20 the relevance of an emotion in post-human form?<
 
Once again, I'm guessing that we will speciate and = there=20 will be multiple post-human forms, some that have decided to keep = human-type=20 emotions (though probably enhanced/customized), some that = won't.
 
>Any info/links on emotion studys would be great.<
 
http://www.unige.= ch/fapse/emotion/welcome.html
 
http://www.ki.se/cns/n= ews/amygdala-e.html
 
http://ww= w.consciousness.arizona.edu/emotionfeb99.html
 
>Lastly, what are your views on the collective = whole?<
You mean becoming Borg-like? I see partial = collectives as=20 very likely.  Hopefully the indvidual will always be able to = disconnect=20 and be a free agent though.  It is also pretty feasible, I'm = guessing,=20 for an individual to make whole/partial copies/agents and become = his/her/its=20 own collective/distributed intelligence.

>On an aside, i must highly recommend some = music=20 due to the fact of the artists mastery of the machine as a musical = tool. Some=20 some of the best artists out there doing this are; Aphex Twin, = Autechre,=20 Square Pusher, Jega, and Bola. If you wish to learn more about this = music,=20 check out www.warp.net. or contact me @ my = personal=20 e-mail (robot@neo.lrun.com) to gain access to my mp3 site w/ 12 gigs = worth of=20 IDM (the name of the future music style). Its great stuff.... = ;)<
Why not just go ahead and give us your web-site = with the=20 music files?  There's nothing at www.warp.net except an e-mail=20 link.
 
Scott
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