Re: Capital punishment and death by any other artificial means.

Abraham Moses Genen (futurist@frontiernet.net)
Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:43:03 -0400


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> From: Mark Grant <mark@unicorn.com>
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: Re: Capital punishment and death by any other artificial means.
> Date: Sunday, June 22, 1997 7:08 AM
>
Mark Grant stated in part:

> >[HTML stuff]
>
> Please don't post HMTL to the list; it's annoying, wastes bandwidth and
> very hard to read. It's particularly annoying when you also quote the
> entire post you're replying to for no obvious reason.
>
> To get back to what I think is your point from what I can decipher of the
> HTML:
>
> While claiming that all killing is bad is very noble, at some stage you
> have to accept that some people are so badly programmed that you have the
> choice of either destroying their personality or destroying their body as
> well (personally I don't see a great deal of difference between the two).
> To give a topical example; what else can you do with someone like Pol
Pot,
> who's clearly demonstrated their desire and ability to kill millions of
> people?
>
> Mark
>
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Dear Mark and fellow Extropians,

Apparently, at least one member of this select circle has not upgraded to a
browser that can read HTML. In an attempt to please a possible minority of
one (at least until he upgrades) I'll write in plain script.

Apparently there has been a misunderstanding about my aversion to a
dialogue about any form of death that involves members of our species
eliminating another for whatever reason -- or rationale -- might be put
forth.

My aversion to argumentums academica et philisophica where it involves
killing is, as you might imagine, quite personal. It probably comes from
more than a few intimate experiences in which I was directly involved in
various forms of death several means.

To be as direct as possible, I find discussions of this sort repugnant. I
suspect that rather being concerned with improving the human condition by
education and other means, his is little more than an exercise in
sublimating ones own hostilities or sexual drives by intellectualizing
them.

Kindly alow this dialogue to end here.

Thank you,

A.M. Genen
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> From: Mark = Grant <mark@unicorn.com>
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: Re: Capital punishment and death by = any other artificial means.
> Date: Sunday, June 22, 1997 7:08 = AM
>
Mark Grant stated in part:

> >[HTML = stuff]
>
> Please don't post HMTL to the list; it's = annoying, wastes bandwidth and
> very hard to read. It's = particularly annoying when you also quote the
> entire post you're = replying to for no obvious reason.
>
> To get back to what = I think is your point from what I can decipher of the
> HTML: =
>
> While claiming that all killing is bad is very noble, = at some stage you
> have to accept that some people are so badly = programmed that you have the
> choice of either destroying their = personality or destroying their body as
> well (personally I don't = see a great deal of difference between the two).
> To give a = topical example; what else can you do with someone like Pol Pot,
> = who's clearly demonstrated their desire and ability to kill millions of =
> people?
>
> Mark
>
> = |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|=
> |Mark Grant M.A., U.L.C. =          EMAIL: mark@unicorn.com =  |
> |WWW: http://www.unicorn.com/ =          MAILBOT: bot@unicorn.com |
> = |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|=
>
Dear Mark and fellow Extropians,

Apparently, at = least one member of this select circle has not upgraded to a browser = that can read HTML. In an attempt to please a possible minority of one = (at least until he upgrades) I'll write in plain = script.

Apparently there has been a misunderstanding about my = aversion to a dialogue about any form of death that involves members of = our species eliminating another for whatever reason -- or rationale -- = might be put forth.

My aversion to argumentums academica et = philisophica where it involves killing is, as you might imagine, = quite personal. It probably comes from more than a few intimate = experiences in which I was directly involved in various forms of death = several  means.  

To be as direct as possible, I find = discussions of this sort repugnant. I suspect that rather being = concerned with improving the human condition by education and other = means, his is little more than an exercise in sublimating ones own = hostilities or sexual drives by intellectualizing them.

Kindly = alow this dialogue to end here.

Thank you,

A.M. Genen =  

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