Dan Hook
guldann@ix.netcom.com
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> From: Robin Hanson <hanson@hss.caltech.edu>
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: Re: Why Not a Planet Of The Apes?
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 5:41 PM
> 
> Carl Feynman writes:
> >>we don't really know it takes [300 yrs], ... new high tech might help
> >
> >I think we do know it takes that long, if not many times longer.  All
the
> >really useful domesticated species I know of have been the object of
> >deliberate breeding for at least five hundred years.  .  Two cases
> >where I might be wrong are carp, turkeys ...  a counterexample ...
> >lab rats and white mice have both been domesticated in the last
> >century. ... these species have very short generation times.  So ...
> >no species has been domesticated in less than 500 generations.  Here
> >my definition of 'domesticated' is that I would walk through a paddock
> >occupied by several of them, that I didn't know personally, without
> >being worried. 
> 
> Again, you may be right, but this seems to be just speculation.  We
> don't know how long it took to reach your (reasonable) definition of
> domestication, nor how many individuals (both humans and others) were
> involved in the effort.  I understand that "scientific" breeding in
> modern farms has improved greatly over older intuitive breeding.  And
> it stands to reason that great further improvements will be possible
> when we can cheaply read out the entire genome of each individual in a
> breeding program, match them with detailed behavioral data, and
> even splice together desired trial genomes.
> 
> Robin D. Hanson  hanson@hss.caltech.edu  http://hss.caltech.edu/~hanson/
>