Psych: Poor Life Wants Death (Immortality: Avoiding Religious Persecution For Pursuing It.)

Mike C. (mikec@jax.gulfnet.com)
Sat, 12 Apr 1997 01:17:54 -0400


>From: GeoffCobb@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:39:18 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: Immortality: Avoiding Religious Persecution For Pursuing It.
>
>In a message dated 97-04-10 06:27:04 EDT, you write:
>
>> >> I am an ardent life extensionist and atheist, but if someone asked
>> >>me if I wanted to be "Immortal", I think I would say "No".
>> >
>> >Not very ardent, how about some dynamic optimism?
>>
>> There's nothing in Ben's statement which implies any lack of dynamic
>> optimism. It's perfectly possible to be dynamically optimistic about
>death.
>> (Although not particularly Extropian, in my view.)

If he is a dynamic optimist
he would believe he could make life worth living.

>
>I agree with Natasha Vita More.
>The term "immortal" carries some heavy connotations, the most noticeable
>being *removing the CHOICE of whether or not to live*.

I have choice I will not exercise.

>
>You *cannot* die.
>I find that undesirable.

You believe life may not be worth living.
I'm sad.

>
>Simple. I would like an INDEFINITE lifespan, one
>within my own control. Immortal implies I cannot choose to pull my own plug.

Rejecting immortality accepts death.
I want immortality with indefinite longevity.
I know my will for death,
it is valuable experience,
but I will NOT let it kill.