Predestination, Determinism, etc (was: Pascal's wager)

From: Francois-Rene Rideau (fare@tunes.org)
Date: Fri May 11 2001 - 11:04:14 MDT


On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 03:53:18PM +0100, Steve Davies wrote:
> As I understand it predestination says that even if you do toe the line you
> still have a good chance of being one of the damned - after all God decided
> if he was going to save you or not before he even made the world!

It is always possible to *DEFINE* some alknowing "God" that would know
our destiny beforehand (or rather, intemporally).
But this is utterly irrelevant, in as much as we don't possess the same
information as God, and must act according to whatever information WE have.
What's amazing is how this relativity of point of view (which is not quite
the same as relativism) is completely missed by most people who debate about
such issues as predestination and determinism, or morality or economics in
general.

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