Re: Tipler's Conjectures

From: hibbert@netcom.com
Date: Fri May 04 2001 - 15:20:28 MDT


Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de said:
> If things fly apart in an accelerating manner, it doesn't matter
> whether the density will be eventually zero, or almost zero. It's
> enough to know that you can't get theah from heah. Welcome to
> Gilligan's Island. Hope you like it here, for you're going to stay
> here for a looong time.

I remember some of Tipler's arguments, and the discussions we had around
the topic, though I won't claim to have worked through the physics in
detail. My recollection is that if you can make local areas with
sufficient density, you can get a lot of work done. If global density goes
to zero, I think I remember that it gets hard to gather sufficient material
anywhere. If the global density asymptotically approaches some non-zero
limit, I thought there was a chance to make islands of sufficient density.
Am I misremembering the argument? Did Tipler assume (or conclude) that you
needed to have *all* the material in the universe collapsing in order to
get omega-point effects?

Chris

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