Re: How to help create a singularity.

From: R. (
Date: Sun Apr 29 2001 - 23:26:05 MDT

I can't seem to pick a prog language to learn.. this thread has helped.. I'm
considering the merits of C#

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Rogers" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: How to help create a singularity.

> On 4/29/01 7:48 PM, "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" <> wrote:
> > James Rogers wrote:
> >>
> >> I am not saying that C should be a first language, but I think a strong
> >> argument can be made that it should be your second or maybe third. I
> >> use C for general application programming, but there are many things I
> >> on that could not be done well without it.
> >
> > I agree, except that I'd substitute C++. The point I am making is that
> > and to slightly lesser extent C++, still suck. I have more accumulated
> > experience in C++ than any other language, but I would never use it for
> > any problem that could be solved in Python or Java.
> I would actually say that C is better than C++, mostly because C has a
> reason for existence, while C++ doesn't. C++ is an ugly bastard of a
> language that seems to have inherited the worst of all worlds. C on the
> other hand is arguably somewhat elegant and well-designed for what it is
> universal assembly language). Most of the problems occur when people use
> for more than this. In practice, I often use the tiny subset of C++ that
> actually offers an improvement over stock C, but not enough that I would
> call the code "C++" ("C+" perhaps), as I refuse to use most of the
> C++ supposedly offers. My use of C++ is still completely procedural,
> is appropriate for what I would normally need to use C for.
> -James Rogers

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