Brent Allsop <allsop@fc.hp.com> Wrote:
    >In a "zombie" simulation everything is  represented by some cause
    >and effect mechanics there would just be no  actual phenomenal
    >consciousness
The implication of the above is that there is a relationship between cause
and effect and zombies, but I have no idea why that should be true.
After all, the only alternative to cause and effect is randomness.
    >If a qualia theory is true, "zombie" or pure abstract simulations
    >would be possible.
It is neither true nor false because there is no qualia theory, at least I
have never heard of  a theory that successfully explains how qualia works.
If there was a theory that detailed the mechanics of consciousness, given
what you said about cause and effect above, that would mean that a qualia
theory proves the impossibility of qualia. I already know from direct experience
that qualia exists thus a theory of qualia can never exist or cause and effect
does not imply zombies or both.
            John K Clark      jonkc@att.net
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