Re: Gun Control & Crime

From: Joe Dees (
Date: Mon Mar 05 2001 - 23:24:42 MST

('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is) >Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:57:41 -0500
>From: Ian Goddard <>
>Subject: Re: Gun Control & Crime
>At 11:57 AM 03/06/2001 +1100, Damien Broderick wrote:
>>What the *hell* are they talking about? People getting rudely jostled in
>>queues? Are they counting the huge number of immigrants from brutal wars
>>who might claim that in their whole lives they had indeed been `victimized'
>>at least once? This might seem inconsistent with:
>> >the International Crime
>> > Victims Survey notes that overall
>> > crime victimization Down Under
>> > rose from 27.8 percent of the
>> > population in 1988, to 28.6 percent
>> > in 1991 to over 30 percent in 1999
>>but still that might be some sort of cumulative figure. Now it's true that
>>I contributed to one of those data a few years ago when my bike, chained
>>outside the local library, was stolen. I never got it back. Very
>>irritating. But I ain't never been killed in no drive-by shooting, bro.
> IAN: Guns don't make people do drive-by shootings.
> To a large extent they are a result of disputes over
> illicit-drug sales. I believe the increase in murder
> in the US is more linkable to drug laws than to a
> lack of gun laws, and so the harmful results of one
> prohibition are used to justify another prohibition.
Drive-by knifings are a bit more difficult, though.
>Visit Ian Williams Goddard --->
> "The more restrictions and prohibitions in the world,
> the poorer people get." Lao Tzu (Tao Te Ching)

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