Re: COMP: Breeding a Better Engine

From: GBurch1@aol.com
Date: Sun Jun 18 2000 - 15:28:48 MDT


In a message dated 6/18/00 4:06:48 PM Central Daylight Time, spike66@ibm.net
writes:

> Hmmm now Im more curious than ever. Composites wouldnt be any
> good for that purpose and I dont know of any materials breakthrus
> in the past several years in metals, unless they are using one of those
> new tricky sintering technologies. But I wouldnt think that would be
> any good for a part as big as a rocker arm or a pushrod. Curious.

I wasn't necessarily think new materials, per se. for instance, we're seeing
 a lot more titanium stuff in things like racing engines, because the tech
for working with it has gotten better. But I was just guessing there.

> > The benefits of getting rid of a long timing belt or chain, with all
the
> lash
> > problems and tension-maintenance issues they give rise to, may offset the
> > reciprocating mass cost of the pushrods.
>
> Ja, but I would think the answer to timing chain lash is a direct shaft
> drive with bevel gears for the overhead cam shafts. That system is
> still reasonably light, reliable and very durable under high revs.

Well, I'll reveal my ignorance: I've never heard of a shaft-driven ohc
system. Are there such in production???? I thought they were all belt- or
chain-driven.
  
> I notice the motorcycle world going back to push rods, which shocks
> me, but I assumed the reason was to imitate Harley Davidson. Have
> you seen the Japanese Harley clones? Yamaha is building one that is
> so Harley-like you need to be right next to it to tell the difference:
> pushrod, fat bob tank, softtail-like back-end, air cooled 98 CI Vtwin,
> even a belt final drive. They must stopped. I want one. {8^D spike

Uh oh. We've now identified an unbridgeable gap between us, Spike old man.
Back in my biker days, I decided there were three kinds of bikes and three
kinds of bikers: "Profilers" (Harley-style, low-cut seats, long rake-angles),
"Cafes" (tucked-in, racer-style) and "In-betweens" (classic "straight" sport
bikes and touring bikes). Although for practical reasons my wheels were
always of the latter category (since during most of that time a bike was my
only wheels), my heart was in the middle category. Had I not gotten out of
bikes, I'd be driving a "katana"-style bike today. I always considered
Profilers to be ill-considered pieces of "street jewelry", designed to look
good from the side but having evil handling manners, mainly due to the
rider's constricted position and the overly-long wheelbase.

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