Re: Extropian principles, let's have a look

From: Martin Ling (
Date: Fri Jun 09 2000 - 17:30:45 MDT

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 04:11:41PM -0400, Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> However, Robert Bradbury's ideas of dismantling solar systems is probably the
> epitome of 'paving over the universe', but this is IMHO more a failing in the
> perceptions of others, because there is still the popular connotation that
> Expansion = Progress = Development = Sprawl = 'Los Angelization' = Paving Over
> the Universe = Very Bad Thing.
> While I like many of Robert's ideas on this score, I think that choosing what
> can be perceived as a Vogon-type attitude toward other worlds doesn't properly
> communicate our true objectives. People are still stuck in ecological mindsets,
> so I think that promoting the ideas of making the universe into our gardens and
> parks is more positive and reflects our aspirations better. Damien's vision of
> this in _The White Abacus_ is very much what I see as the sort of future many of
> us want.

Yes, Mike has the key point here (which I was half way to writing out in
full when I nitpicked on the new age fluff) - don't let the limitations
of others' understanding change how you present yourselves. Although
your objective is to make everyone understand what you stand for, for
most people their minds will be made up already however you phrase
things. Hence, your priority should be to get your message across
clearly to those who would join you - so that you can ensure you
succeed in finding and identifying with those people.


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