Re: Gardening is Extropian (was) Are you an extropian? Re: Voluntarysimpli...

From: Michael S. Lorrey (
Date: Thu Jun 08 2000 - 09:01:15 MDT

"Emlyn (hotmail)" wrote:
> Extropian principles: I was just rereading them in recent days. I agree with
> them all, I think, except the first:
> 1. Perpetual Progress - Seeking more intelligence, wisdom, and
> effectiveness, an indefinite lifespan, and the removal of political,
> cultural, biological, and psychological limits to self-actualization and
> self-realization. Perpetually overcoming constraints on our progress and
> possibilities. Expanding into the universe and advancing without end.
> Of course, I like a lot of the sentiment. Yet, it reeks of modernism;
> perpetual progress? more intelligence and wisdom? Perpetually overcoming
> constraints on our progress, advancing without end? All very linear stuff;
> as simple as A to B:
> A: Where you are now --------------> B: Glorious Posthuman future
> Can't we do something a little better, a little more sophisticated, than
> this?

What do you think is 'more sophisticated'? Do you propose that we should endorse
luddism or technological or economic regression? We know where we want to get
to, anything other than a straight line is mere dalliance. What is the point?
People are DYING every day. The longer we delay progress, the more people that
will die in the future.

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