Re: Weasels vs. transparancy / traffic cameras

From: Michael S. Lorrey (retroman@turbont.net)
Date: Sun May 21 2000 - 15:45:49 MDT


Zero Powers wrote:
>
> >From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <retroman@turbont.net>
> >
> >Spike Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > > QueeneMUSE@aol.com wrote: When surveillaence is everywhere what will
> >we do to
> > > > feel like we are getting away with something?
> > > > Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> > > > suicide. Suicide does increase in societies with greater levels of
> > > > surveillance and repression.
> > >
> > > Suicide rate is higher in societies with greater surveillance and
> >repression,
> > > but what about societies with greater surveillance and *less*
> >repression?
> > > spike
> >
> >no such animal.
>
> >From the descriptions of the Brits on the list, sounds like the UK might
> qualify.
>

Depends. Property crime rates 5 times higher than the US? No right to
privacy on email? Political dissidents (irish) getting assassinated by
government SAS units? No free press (Official Secrets Act and various
libel laws)? What are the tax rates now over there? What are the value
added tax rates? Any country that taxes you on the number of closets you
have and the number of televisions you have is NOT a free country.



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