Re: Is the fourth time is the charm?

From: Zero Powers (
Date: Fri May 19 2000 - 01:04:20 MDT

>From: "John Clark" <>
>The question nobody wants to answer clearly because is would just sound
>too stupid is this:
>Question: I've been making and destroying a billion Harvey Newstroms
>every second since you were a one celled zygote, so who is the original
>Harvey Newstrom?

Obviously the answer you're looking for is that the "original" Harvey was
the one-celled zygote you started copying way back when. But I think the
more pertinent question is "who is the original Harvey who knows he is

After all, I belive you realize that *consciousness* is the thing we care
about and want to preserve. My baby toe on my left foot is just as much a
part of the physical me as any other physical part of me. But if my toe got
cut off, I would still consider myself to be fully alive and would be
convinced that *I* continue to exist. So you're right its not simply the
collection of atoms that makes me, it is the constituents of my

We could argue until the singularity comes about *when* consciousness has
sufficiently developed so that I realize that I exist. But, whenever it was
that my consciousness began to develop, that's when the original "me" began
to form.


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