Re: Buzzwords (was)Judging Beauty (was: wee-little

From: Lee Daniel Crocker (
Date: Tue May 02 2000 - 09:45:04 MDT

> Perhaps there are other people who think I am stupid, sentimental or sloppy
> in my thinking, but you are the only one who consistently says it. If you
> cannot disagree with my ideas without calling them stupid, please do not read
> my posts or respond to them.

That phenomenon is interesting, and seems to be an effect of an
interesting interaction: (1) I read all posts made, in order, with
no heed to poster or thread; (2) When I see any opinion or idea
expressed that I have strong opinions about, I respond with my own,
quoting only the words being responded to; (3) You and I seem to be
interested in similar topics, but come at them from nearly opposite
points of view; (4) I'm frequently rude.

These factors combine into an effect that might look like a
personal attack. But if there were someone else that had similar
interests and differing opinions, the same thing would happen.
Not that I shun personal attacks when appropriate, but this isn't
one--it just looks that way.

> ... Yet [others] know how to treat people decently
> and deal with me in a gentlemanly fashion.

Politeness is a disease I have no use for, and I've made that
case many times before so I won't repeat it here (look in the
archives--I think the word "rude" is in the titles of many
messages in the thread). You are, of course, free to call me a
boorish ass, and I will not object. It's interesting that
you use the word "gentlemanly": even more than politeness in
general I have no respect at all for patronizing paternalism.
If you think I should give you a break because of your gender,
think again.

> Personally I don't think there's one stupid person on this list.

I agree, but there's lots of stupid ideas, some of mine included.
I will not cripple the effective communication here by coddling
people's feelings instead of telling it like I see it.

Lee Daniel Crocker <> <>
"All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past,
are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified
for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC

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