Re: Death Penalty (was Re: Didn't need no welfare state)

From: Michael S. Lorrey (
Date: Thu Apr 20 2000 - 16:39:17 MDT

Zero Powers wrote:

> >From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <>
> >a) there is no 'thrill' or 'rush' from packing heat. Anyone who does so for
> >that
> >purpose or to get the chance to use it on somebody shouldn't be carrying,
> >or
> >should really reexamine why they are carrying. This is the typical response
> >of
> >the hoplophobes, that people who carry are a bunch of bloodthirsty sadists
> >that wanna go out and kick ass. This couldn't be further from the truth. To
> have
> >a carry permit, you have to be one of the more squeaky clean and non-violent
> >people in your society. When I applied for my permit, the cops called
> >around to>at least half a dozen people who knew me (not people I had given as
> >references,>as, according to the police chief, "Those people are gonna say
> nice things
> >about>you.") and asked questions like 'is he a violent person?', 'has he ever
> >been>mean to animals?', etc...which led to some interesting phone calls to me
> >later>in the week....they also did a 50 state and a federal background check
> for
> >any>criminal record (even though state law says its not required).
> Are you kidding me? This is supposed to convince me that people who carry
> guns are the most "squeaky clean and non-violent people" in society? That,
> as you like to say, is rich!

Why is that?

> Clue: the cops who killed Amadou Diallo and the cops who sodomized Abner
> Louima and the cops in LA's Rampart Precinct who apparently routinely
> framed, beat and shot innocent people *all* passed the same sort of
> background test you're talking about.

Actually, policemen have a far higher incidence of juvinile delinquency than
other parts of the population. Police Chiefs have been known to expunge the past
juvinile and adult criminal records of police candidates in order to fill the
force (though usually that occurs when the department has to fill an affirmative
action quota). They have a higher incidence of domestic violence than the
regular population, nor do police have to go through a NICS Instacheck
background check when they purchase a gun, nor do they get a background check
when they buy a class III automatic weapon. As far as the police (pigs) are
concerned, some are indeed 'more equal than others'.

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