> Damien Broderick wrote:
> > 
> > Here's something from an Oz site, posted March 25 this year
> > 
> > http://www.guncontrol.org.au/nra_fud.html
> > 
> > with some [explications by me]
> 
> Thanks Damien. I would prefer, however, to see the actual statistics
> released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, rather than what some
> gun control group claims they are. From my own experience with gun
> control groups here in the US, they are superb liars and 
> propagandists,
> and while I might be wrong about your groups down there, I don't think
> they can be that much different.
> 
> Since the ABS hasn't posted any actual stats on crime on its 
> website, do
> you think you could access their data at your university library?
The ABS has had the stats on crime on its websites for a while, i've posted
them here before.  The only difference between the claims between the NRA
and the gun-control lobby is that the NRA is taking 1997 as the first gun
control year and the gun-control lobby is taking 1998 as the first gun
control year.  1999 isn't up yet.
http://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/c311215.NSF/Australia+Now+-+A+Statistical+P
rofile/2C2A842ACC44F31DCA2567220072E990/
 
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