A cryonics enclave is on the horizon

From: john grigg (starman125@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Apr 06 2000 - 15:10:26 MDT

I am excited! David Pizer has taken the first big step by purchasing the
land for this project. The vision he has must be nurtured and made real. I
really could see it because of the word picture he drew. The area of land
he bought sounds choice and should be perfect for what is needed. I live in
Anchorage, Alaska but if I were close enough I would go and take a look at
the land.

I think this is what cryonics has been looking for. A cryonicist enclave
like this could really capture the positive interest of the public and mass
media and help to focus our energies in a way that would really benefit
eachother. It would be more then just a retirement community or a hospice
because with a resort on the premises, people could vacation there over the
years and learn to love the place and see it as a community for living and
growth instead just a place to await death.

I just hope it is designed to be affordable for all income levels. A
powerful thrill shot through me as I read the post and I hope to feel even
greater excitement as I read in the future about how construction is going
on to make the dream a reality. I wish best of luck to David Pizer and the
Venturists in this endeavor.

best wishes,

John Grigg

Message #13470
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:40:35 -0500
From: david pizer <pizer@primenet.com>Subject: Re: CryoNet #13459 - #13465

At 05:00 AM 4/4/00 -0400, CryoNet wrote:>Message #13460
From: "john grigg" <starman125@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Joanna Epstein
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:47:15 PDT


>We must do all we can to help Joanna. I realize financial resources >are
>limited but we must find a way somehow.


>John Grigg

The Venturists may be getting close to providing this type of help. See

Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:39:42 -0400
From: gary tripp gtripp@ica.net
Subject: charitable funding of suspensions


>A charity would be a good way to solve this problem.
>Such an organization could invest and accumulate money in a tax free
>environmnet and so fund research into cryonic suspension technology >in
>addition to the occasional suspension.


>Comments anyone?

>Message #13463
>Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:50:07 -0700
>From: Peter Christiansen <revphc@earthlink.net
>Subject: RE: Dave Pizer's Cryonics Supportive Community

>The principal objection to Dave Pizer's proposal for the >establishment of
>a Cryonics Supoortive Community seems to be that >many people do not want
>to ggive their home for a small apartment. >This seems understandable.


We are finally moving forward. I recently purchased 40 acres about one hour
drive north of Phoenix/Scottsdale. This is in a rural area of 4000 foot
elevation. There are retirement ranchettes (big house on 5 acres), a few
regular ranches and small towns in the area. Prescott and Prescott Valley
(about 75,000 people) are 25 minutes to the west. Sedona andOak Creek
Canyon are an hour to the north.

Except for one other 40 acre parcel of private land that is kitty-corner to
mine, my 40 acres is surrounded by State and Federal lands so no one else
can build next to my land. If things work out, I might buy the other parcel
for future development. There is a little brook that flows year round
through the middle of the property. The brook has native cottonwoods,
Mesquites and other large trees, wild flowers in the spring and lots of
other bushes and plants. The animals come to the creek to drink: rabbits,
foxes, deer, lots of birds.

This is an area that is considered safe from earthquakes, floods and other

This is truely a peaceful and secure place but just an hour drive from
Phoenix with its state of the art medical care (a Mayo Clinic and a Mayo

I am hopeing to build a small resort with small cabins along the creek.Back
on the hills overlooking the creek, I would like the Society for Venturism
to build apartments or homes for cryonicists to buy, rent or lease. These
would be either small or large depending on the tenant's needs and ability.

There could also be a hospice or in-home hospice service. This is the
parcel that I would like to create a cryonics community that I have seen a
need for. A place where like-minded persons can work together to raise the
odds for mutiple survival. Residents could have condo-like homes or
free-standing homes on larger parcels, like 1/2 acre.

We could have a community meeting building, a spa, exercise room (although
there are miles and miles or nature trails leading through the federal
forests that adjoin this parcel for hiking.

The income from the resort portion might be used to create the cryonics
community. There can also be buildings where cryonics volunteers can work
together to raise public awareness for life extension and also to raise
money for charitable help in underfunded suspensions. We would need people
who are experts with computers, writers, public speakers, and other workers.
  Some people could do radio talk shows and if we raise awareness,we could
supply guests for TV talk shows. We might also have our own printing
equipment and publish magazines and books on cryonics, life extension and
other related topics.

The next step is to raise the money to build the public resort portion. I
may be able to have that by the end of this year. In the meantime, people
interested can throw out ideas for discussion.

What can develop there in the way of a supportive community will depend on
the people that are willing to join together and make this happen. All
cryonicists and their ideas are welcome.

Dave Pizer
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