Re: When Humans are Obsolete (MSNBC)
Joe Jenkins (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:31:12 -0800 (PST)
- "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" <email@example.com> wrote:
> Joe Jenkins wrote:
> > > As you know, I think consciousness is noncomputable.
> > This is a highly controversial statement for the extropians list.
> > you please provide an argument to support it? If it has been recently
> > debated, a pointer to the thread title would suffice.
> Quite true. I don't actually think I've debated it recently... about
> two, three years back, with John K Clark, was the last time I said
> anything at all. I'm afraid I'm not interested in debating it again,
> though. Sorry.
> Basically, I used to be a Strong AIer, until I tried to define
> computation in observer-independent terms - whether process A
> instantiates process B - and wound up with a lot of basic elements of
> cognition (many of which made it into _Coding_) but no objective
> definition. I concluded that the Turing formalism formalized human
> reasoning rather than physical law. Fini.
Ok, forget Turing for now then. What physical process occurs in your
that is not computable? Or, are you claiming you are not concious?
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