Re: What is Extropy? (Draft on web)

Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (sentience@pobox.com)
Sun, 07 Mar 1999 03:00:45 -0600

Max More wrote:
>
> http://www.maxmore.com/extropy.html
== Comment on that page
> What is Extropy?
>
> EXTROPY: A metaphor, loosely related to the idea of negentropy,
> that refers to basic attitudes and values shared by those who want
> to overcome human limits. These values and attitudes are
> explained in The Extropian Principles and include a desire to
> direct oneself in pursuing perpetual progress and
> self-transformation with an attitude of practical optimism
> implemented using rational thinking and intelligent technology in
> an open society.

Never start by defining your idea as something it isn't. I would suggest:

'EXTROPY: A metaphor that refers to basic attitudes and values shared by those who want to overcome human limits through technology. [Lots of guys want to do it through Guru Spammachakra. Distinguish immediately, but using a positive term rather than a protest.] [Shorter version: "EXTROPY: The core values associated with overcoming human limits through technology."] These values and attitudes are explained in The Extropian Principles and include a desire to direct oneself in pursuing perpetual progress and self-transformation with an attitude of practical optimism implemented using rational thinking and intelligent technology in an open society. Extropy, as a metaphor, is directly opposed to the metaphorical connotations of entropy, but is not to be confused with the technical term "negentropy".'

> (2) "Extropy, hmm, that must have something to do with
> entropy. Is it the opposite?"
>
> (1) One reason why I adopted the term "extropy" (which was coined
> by T.O. Morrow) was indeed because of its implication of
> anti-entropic ideals

> (5) "Arenít all isms dangerous, even extropianism?"
>
> (3) "Is Extropianism a complete worldview?"
>
> (4) "Does Extropianism refer to a set of required beliefs?"
>
> (6) "Are you sure that extropy is not a thing I can
> measure?"

I would suggest these topics be rearranged in that order.

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