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Joe E. Dees
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At Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:40:38 -0500, you wrote:
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>Samael wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael S. Lorrey <retroman@together.net>
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>> >Yes, you are correct EXCEPT in denying the existence of zero, a natural
>> moral
>> >fixed point within the moral space continuum from which all others can
>> relate
>> >and which binds the moral continuum to real behavior in the real universe.
>> Even
>> >in relativity space there are absolutes, like the speed of light, the
>> Planck
>> >length, etc.
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>> Where is this zero, how do we find it. What does it derive from. How do we
>> observe it. With the speed of light, there are observations and
>> meausurements we can make, not so with morals.
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>How do you know unless you have tried? Using my earlier definition of objective
>morality, it would be relatively easy. First off, you need to theorize that it
>might, in fact, exist.
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>Can you do that?
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>Mike Lorrey
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Morality is connected with actions (or their forbearance). Not to act at all cannot be considered a zero point, however, in, say, the case of an excellent swimmer who just sits on the shore like a sodden log whilst clearly perceiving the gurgling plaints of a drowning child. The reason that there is no zero point is that there are multifarious circumstances (not to mention many ethical systems) which can not agree on such a common reference.
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Joe E. Dees
Poet, Pagan, Philosopher
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