Re: Hawking an Extropian?

Arjen Kamphuis (
Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:14:09 +0100 (CET)

At 17:24 9-03-98 GMT (Randy Smith) wrote:
>Over the near future short-term, I doubt if he will effect any
>substantial change, unless he totally embraces the concept and makes
>it a crusade, and why should he? Even he if he were able to show many
>the Extropian light, the change he caused would not come in time to
>help him.

How do you know that? Whatever happened to Dynamic Optimism and such?

But aside from that:
Why is it so hard for some people on this list to believe that there are
people on this planet who would do things not because they will benefit
from them personally but because they _believe_ or _feel_ it is the right
thing to do? Because they believe there are things more important than them
personally (like the wellbeing of the human species as opposed to their own
wellbeing). I know this can also lead to very negative things but that rule
applies to all powerfull tools.

Even if you yourself would never, in your entire lifetime, do something if
it does not benefit you in some way would you at least accepts the fact
that there are people who do? Why is that so hard?

I do not mean to critizise anyone personal here, everyone must do what they
feel is right, but this 'why would he do that, he doesn't get anything for
it' attitude is not very positive minded IMHO. Isn't the darinwistic
'struggle for life' thing something we wish to transcend? It may be
impossible, but should we at least not try?


(I hope I did not inadvertently crash any mailprograms ;-)

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