On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 Brent Allsop <allsop@swttools.fc.hp.com> Wrote:
        >one thing is very obvious, red which we use to represent 700 nm         
        >light, and by the way is nothing like 700 nm light since it is in our         
        >brain
         
True, and equally true is the fact that the data in a computer's memory that 
a photo cell has received a photon of 700 nm light is nothing like that light. 
I don't know if that data is anything like my idea of red, and I don't know 
if your red is the same as mine either.
              
        >is certainly a lot more (and much more rich in meaning resulting in         
        >our greater intelligence) than some mere  non unified abstract set of         
        >bits 
          
All bits are abstract whether in a brain or a machine, and if computers  
contained nothing but non unified set of bits they would produce only 
gibberish. They don't.
            
        >where it doesn't matter if these bits are represent by a man in a         
        >room reading kanji, holes in paper, or quantim bits in a quantum         
        >computer.
            
To exist information must be in a context, otherwise a hole in a paper tape 
is not data it's just a hole, but there is nothing unique about the human 
mind in that regard.
As for Searle's Chinese Room, it only proves one thing, a very small part of 
a mechanism does not have all the attributes of the whole.
                                             John K Clark    johnkc@well.com
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