Re: Public Relations (and the Extropian Elite)

Michael Lorrey (retroman@together.net)
Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:17:14 -0500


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Yak Wax wrote:

> I've been thinking about this "Extropian Party" idea, and I think we
> should take a few things into account:
>
> 1. People are stupid

ok

> 2. People are stupid

more like: 2. People are selfish

> 3. People are stupid

more like: 3. People are lazy

>
>
> So taking these three points into account I have formulated the
> following plan for an Extropian Party:
>
> 1. Rather than the usual Libertarian "everyone should be free"
> nonsense, I propose - "We should be free. You should do as we say."
>
> 2. Forget Democracy, Totalitarianism is the only route a modern party
> should take.

How about totalitarian imposition of libertarian anarchy?(remember, the
original US Constitution was imposed in such a way)

>
>
> 3. Don't shy away from coercion - you're free (remember?) you can do
> as you please.
>
> 4. We're not here to "make a better world" we're here to "make a
> better self." Anyone who isn't a member is simply media fodder - use
> em and abuse em.
>
> 5. Our campaign should be one of lying, cheating and media propaganda
> - in an election you can't stoop too low.
>
> At this point many of you may think I'm joking - I'm not. So I'd
> better explain myself:
>
> By creating a system where everyone's free I can't guarantee that
> everything will go my way, there's bound to be some post-democracy
> fallout of people who don't know what to do, so they'll carry on the
> way they were. Added to that are the people who are just inherently
> stupid. So what we want is a Totalitarian society that rewards the
> intellectual (democracy tries to make everyone equal - big mistake!)
> and ignores anyone against it. And before the knee-jerk "you're
> Hitler" mails come my way, Hitler (just like the majority of leaders)
> was trying to make a better world, I'm simply trying to make the world
> better for myself (a far more admirable goal.)
>
> So if you want to join, agree, or just make some *critical* analysis.
> Reply!
>

Unfortunately for that plan, it fails to take into account that its far
easier to make the better world for yourself if you try to make the world
better for everyone, than by butting your head against the wall.

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Yak Wax wrote:

I've been thinking about this "Extropian Party" idea, and I think we
should take a few things into account:

1. People are stupid

ok

2. People are stupid

more like: 2. People are selfish

3. People are stupid

more like: 3. People are lazy
 

So taking these three points into account I have formulated the
following plan for an Extropian Party:

1. Rather than the usual Libertarian "everyone should be free"
nonsense, I propose - "We should be free.  You should do as we say."

2. Forget Democracy, Totalitarianism is the only route a modern party
should take.

How about totalitarian imposition of libertarian anarchy?(remember, the original US Constitution was imposed in such a way)
 

3. Don't shy away from coercion - you're free (remember?) you can do
as you please.

4. We're not here to "make a better world" we're here to "make a
better self."  Anyone who isn't a member is simply media fodder - use
em and abuse em.

5. Our campaign should be one of lying, cheating and media propaganda
- in an election you can't stoop too low.

At this point many of you may think I'm joking - I'm not.  So I'd
better explain myself:

By creating a system where everyone's free I can't guarantee that
everything will go my way, there's bound to be some post-democracy
fallout of people who don't know what to do, so they'll carry on the
way they were.  Added to that are the people who are just inherently
stupid.  So what we want is a Totalitarian society that rewards the
intellectual (democracy tries to make everyone equal - big mistake!)
and ignores anyone against it.  And before the knee-jerk "you're
Hitler" mails come my way, Hitler (just like the majority of leaders)
was trying to make a better world, I'm simply trying to make the world
better for myself (a far more admirable goal.)

So if you want to join, agree, or just make some *critical* analysis.
Reply!
 

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