Re: Hawking on cloning

Loren S Hardy (
Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:05:33 EST

On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:17:00 -0500 Michael Lorrey <>
>Stephen Hawking just stated in an interview with an AP reporter:
>"The fuss about cloning is rather silly," he said. "I can't see any
>essential distinction between cloning and producing brothers and
>in the time-honored way."

______________ Please post this everywhere an identical twin clone can
read! ________________

A message to all those racist people, including governments and religions
who haven't
learned how to help themselves yet!

Since I am a bonified human clone amongst millions of others, (an
identical twin) I am
finding all this debate about human cloning a bit offensive to myself
and others I know
and love. Kind of smacks me in the face as though I am being
discriminated against
in a way Kind of like the black people of the world and our country
were and still are being

***** In case you haven't learned it yet guys, discrimination and racism
of any race
or group of people is wrong, unlawful and extremely immoral! *****

This kind of childish behavior hurts people and sometimes gets people
killed as a byproduct of
the hatreds it breads amongst gullible ignorant people! ( To President
I sure hope you aren't one of these racist persons! You don't need
ethologist or self appointed religious
leaders to tell you how to read your own mindful-heart, and if you do,
we are all in for more trouble than I thought.)

Human clones exist today in me, my twin clone, and in the hundreds of
millions of others!
We are not a small group! And we are not deserving to be a subject of
racism or discriminatory
talk any more than any other race, religion, or people are.

I am hereby putting these the United States Nation on notice, that such
continued inflammatory
talks is paramount to slander and racism on a grand scale, and I
formally demand that this stupid
inflammatory debate be stopped! Also I request a letter from the
president of this nation, to this
nation to be entered into the public record, and :televised live" since
the stupid debate has
been publicized the same, recognizing our human rights as any other
person of this nation or world have.

We are alive, and human, and are a formal part of every race, religion
and culture on earth today,
and always have been. I think it's time all twin clones of this world
stand up and claim our right
(in a way that people can't ignore) to exist, procreate, and have
normally acceptable lives as any
other individual.

This issue of whether human clones have rights to exist and do any/all
things as any other
individual must stop. To not stop it is paramount admitting as a
society, that this society
has not recognized our human rights of existence from the beginning of
this nation as being equal
as any other white, black, hispanic, or any other race in this nation or

You know, I Kind of thought this nation was getting a handle on how to
stop being racist pigs,
but maybe I was wrong! I guess that time will tell!

I think it's time that all human clone twins pull together to fight this
issue. We may, just like the blacks
hispanics, and other races, need to fight it out in the courts regarding
our rights of existence and procreation.

If other non-clone people can have normal non-clone babies in a way the
see fit, so can we have normal
(to us) clone babies no matter how many clones we choose to make in the
same ways they do.
We have a right to create offspring, that of our own clone selves.
This is our Nature! We have lots of
common-law jurisprudence to back us up in any court of the land.

All identical twins, like it or not, are "The People or (race) Of
Clone"! To be a Clone, is to be Human!

If other people can have test-tube babies, we should have these rights
also. And if our offspring is just like
us, born a human clone just like we were born (a clone), well, that's
our natural right. We have always had
that right, and no one can take that right away from us without an
enormous fight. Even if we loose a fight
in the courts, no person (or judge) or country can take the right from
us. The right is inate! Inalliable unto
our very own beings, just as our right to life, happiness religious
freedom and liberty is!

******* Any other human clone twins out there and their parents, who
would like to come together with me to form
a potential class action civil and criminal prosecutions of "all
opposition" to our rights of existence as a people,
and free abilities to reproduce other clones naturally or otherwise,
being recognized the same as normal people, please
send me your name, address phone number, and email#, and let me know
how much funds you will pledge
to this fighting cause if needed. ********

Just to let you know, If we have to go to court to fight for these
rights, there will be a heafty cost, and I will expect all
people enjoining the court action cause to participate in the funding.

The blacks had to do it,
The homosexuals had to do it,
Peoples of many religions had to do it,

I guess it looks as though we will probably have to do it too. (Fight
for our rights in court!)

Loren Hardy, trustee for
World Humanitarian Resource Network