Re: PRIVACY: MSIExplorer email spy file

Michael Lorrey (
Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:04:39 -0500

Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> > Even the PGP overwriting? I can't remember what it said, but it claims
> > to be efficient at this. I mean, not like I expect the Feds to come
> > running in and doing a search on my hard-drive, so I would assume it
> > would keep most people out of it, correct? I suppose, though, if they
> > can revive a hard drive that's been tossed in a deep river, and regain
> > most of the data on it, then they should be able to recover the wiped
> > data, eh? So, how the hell do you get rid of the data? Smash the hard
> > drive? Burn it? Is anyone aware of the efficiency of the PGP wipe
> > compared to other commercial software?
> Yes, such programs would protect you from nosy neighbors and
> roommates, and maybe even the local cops, but not the FBI or NSA.
> >From them, you'd have to either never put anything on your computer
> in the first place--even if you never save it; modern OSs have
> virtual memory--or else /melt/ your hard drive.

With all due respect guys, this is going far beyond my original post. I
am merely scenarioing the possibility that someone could use the
security loopholes that are currently in Explorer to allow hackers of
any origin, whether independents or industrial/governmental, to look at
your hard drive, and read the email that you had thought you had
deleted. People do not just delete email for illegal purposes, but for
business and personal purposes as well. How many lawyers or doctors
compromise their patients confidentiality every day unwittingly when
their hospital's email system does not adequately delete confidential
communications that are supposed to remain private? We all know that
employers and insurance companies love to get their hands on such
information, to the detriment of employees and customer premiums every

Given this, what sort of tools could people use to automatically
overwrite deleted email messages, as well as eliminating this "feature"
of explorer that stores deleted messages?


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