RE: Poetry (was Hakim Bey )

From: Colin Hales (colin@versalog.com.au)
Date: Wed Feb 27 2002 - 15:59:04 MST


while making up kids lunches this morning, this happened to me:

Bespoke Pomo bard hack'em,
In affront of expropian eschaton
Found he could parse
The wind up his arse
Into technébabble, mot-scrabble and lig patin.

When I find out who it was that did it I'll let you know.

cheers
Colin
* I'm done :) *

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-extropians@extropy.org
> [mailto:owner-extropians@extropy.org]On Behalf Of Alex Ramonsky
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2002 10:54 PM
> To: extropians@extropy.org
> Subject: Re: Poetry (was Hakim Bey )
>
>
> I wonder if anyone else has experienced this...? -There is a type of
> language used in certain kinds of poetry, song lyrics, and
> prose...I don't
> know whether to call it 'abstract' or what because I know
> very little about
> literature terms, but an example would be the lyrics of Jon
> Anderson, eg
> 'A man concieved a moment's answers to the dream, playing the powers
> vaguely sensing all the themes'
> 'Coming quickly to terms of all expression laid, emotion
> revealed as the
> ocean maid'.
>
> My question is...Why do lyrics and poetry like this frighten and upset
> people? Because they do...
> There are three different types of reaction to stuff like
> this. Some people
> say, 'doesn't make any sense to me'. Other say 'Oh yeh I get
> it it's kind of
> abstract; poetic'. But the third lot say 'BS! Wank! Rubbish!'
> and over-react
> completely, trying really hard to discredit the author,
> almost frantic to
> prove it 'doesn't mean anything, it's rubbish'.
> I have noticed such a strong reaction of this kind for so
> many years, Ithis
> response of 'Huh! Mystical crap!'
> Can anyone explain why this sort of usage of language provokes this
> reaction? Are people actually frightened of it because they
> don't understand
> it?
> ...Could we use poetry as a bioweapon? (Scene jumps to troops in
> battlefield, reading aloud from James Joyce, enemy troops
> screaming and
> covering their ears) ...No? Just wondered...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Steven Hack" <richardhack@pcmagic.net>
> To: <extropians@extropy.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 01:25
> Subject: RE: Hakim Bey (was: RE: virtual nation building)
>
>
> > At 10:17 AM 2/27/02 +1100, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >Isn't it obvious that technology has moral implications
> oozing everywhere
> >
> >
> > Technology has moral implications if you are a moralist.
> If you aren't,
> it
> > doesn't.
> >
> > >Maybe it is a kind of poetry.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >
> > >Colin
> >
> > Richard Steven Hack
> > richardhack@pcmagic.net
> >
>
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