From: John Grigg (starman2100@lycos.com)
Date: Wed Feb 13 2002 - 13:34:15 MST
These two Cryonet posts tell of The Door Into Summer for-profit company which looks to be extremely promising. I do wonder how their suspension protocols will compare to Alcor.
Between the Timeship and now this project, Saul Kent and Bill Faloon are really making a mark on cryonics. Of course, they have been for years the biggest patrons of the movement.
best wishes,
John
Message #18540
From: Ettinger@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:12:58 EST
Subject: TDIS
TDIS Comments (Sent to Cryonet and CI directors)
Thanks to Saul Kent, Bill Faloon, and David Shumaker for the operating
plan/budget for The Door Into Summer project (TDIS). As I read it, some of
the elements include the following.
TDIS will be a for-profit company which will, among other things, perform
"suspensions" or freezings or vitrifications (both whole-body and neuro) for
members of cryonics organizations, who will then be stored long term at those
organizations.
It will also provide equipment and guidelines for cryonics organizations to
do the suspensions themselves, using TDIS technology on a fee/license basis.
The first phase of operation is estimated to take about a year, and will
develop and demonstrate a capability to do cryopreservation with
vitrification.
Initial operating cost (overhead) will be roughly $600,000 per year. Pricing
will be a compromise between cost and affordability. Meeting costs will
depend on expanding demand or/and generating revenues or supporting funds
from "originators, investors, or cryonics organizations" or/and other
activities.
Price for a vitrification cryopreservation performed by TDIS in Florida,
exclusive of transportation costs and the charges of the cryonics
organization providing the long term storage, will be around $40,000 for
either neuro or whole body. If this holds up, it would mean that the cost to
a CI member of whole body preparation by TDIS followed by storage at CI would
be around $70,000 plus transportation.
TDIS Board of Directors will consist of William Faloon, Mike Darwin, Saul
Kent, CEO (David Shumaker?), and three independent outside directors.
If I have misread any of this, no doubt someone will correct me.
Again, thanks to those involved and best wishes for the Florida meeting
Saturday, at which I expect a few of our people will attend.
Robert Ettinger
Cryonics Institute
Immortalist Society
www.cryonics.org
Message #18542
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 05:53:06 -0500
From: Saul Kent <SaulKent@compuserve.com>
Subject: Ettinger On New Cryonics Company
Yesterday, Bob Ettinger posted the following
comments on plans for a new cryonics company in Florida:
>>> Message #18540
From: Ettinger@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:12:58 EST
Subject: TDIS
>>> TDIS Comments (Sent to Cryonet and CI directors)
>>> Thanks to Saul Kent, Bill Faloon, and David Shumaker for the operating
plan/budget for The Door Into Summer project (TDIS). As I read it, some of
the elements include the following.
>>> TDIS will be a for-profit company which will, among other things,
perform
"suspensions" or freezings or vitrifications (both whole-body and neuro)
for
members of cryonics organizations, who will then be stored long term at
those
organizations.
>>> It will also provide equipment and guidelines for cryonics
organizations to
do the suspensions themselves, using TDIS technology on a fee/license
basis.
>>> The first phase of operation is estimated to take about a year, and
will
develop and demonstrate a capability to do cryopreservation with
vitrification.
>>> Initial operating cost (overhead) will be roughly $600,000 per year.
Pricing
will be a compromise between cost and affordability. Meeting costs will
depend on expanding demand or/and generating revenues or supporting funds
from "originators, investors, or cryonics organizations" or/and other
activities.
>>> Price for a vitrification cryopreservation performed by TDIS in
Florida,
exclusive of transportation costs and the charges of the cryonics
organization providing the long term storage, will be around $40,000 for
either neuro or whole body. If this holds up, it would mean that the cost
to
a CI member of whole body preparation by TDIS followed by storage at CI
would
be around $70,000 plus transportation.
>>> TDIS Board of Directors will consist of William Faloon, Mike Darwin,
Saul
Kent, CEO (David Shumaker?), and three independent outside directors.
>>> If I have misread any of this, no doubt someone will correct me.
>>> Again, thanks to those involved and best wishes for the Florida meeting
Saturday, at which I expect a few of our people will attend.
You haven't misread anything in the plan/budget, but it's important
to
note that the plan is an initial proposal and that the details of the
company may
differ in various respects from what's in the plan. The meetings we have in
Florida
will play a role in determining these details. That's why it's important
for those who
are interested in the venture to attend these meetings. A reminder. The
formal
meeting is at the Life Extension Building, 1100 W. Commercial Blvd. in Ft.
Lauderdale at 2 pm on Feb. 16. This will be followed by a buffet dinner at
a
condominium on the beach in Ft. Lauderdale (directions will be given at the
meeting). There will also be informal meetings on Feb. 14 and 15.
---Saul Kent
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