**See below. Portions snipped.
On 21 Feb 2001, at 9:28, Amara Graps wrote:
> 
> From: John Marlow (johnmarlow@gmx.net)
> ...So then, well and good, I'm glad to hear it.
> 
> But where did this phrase:
> 
> >largely UNpopular with other scientists, who tend
>                                          ^^^^^^^^^^
> to look down upon such sharing of secret knowledge
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> with the unwashed masses
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> come from?  Do these words come from _your_ experience
> with scientists?
> 
> "secret knowledge" ??!!    (== "science concepts" ??)
> "unwashed masses" ??!!     (== "nonscientists" ??)
> 
> 
> I find these phrases antagonistic and a complete disconnect with
> my knowledge and experience. I've been in the sciences 20 years,
> and I've yet to encounter another scientist who treats
> nonscientists with this kind of scorn, as you describe above.
**Well, that could be because they're treating YOU as a colleague. 
Were you in the company of nonscientists who were complete strangers 
with no knowlege of the disciplines? Or maybe you just hang out with 
nice guys.
  :)
**Actually,  the 'secret knowledge' thing is Gould's. The 'unwashed 
masses' is mine. The same principle is at work with cops and 
religious leaders: Knowledge shared is power lost. This is why cops 
fight open public access to public records, and why the Church 
conducted masses in  Latin and hated Gutenberg.
**I've not met many scientists I truly disliked, though I've read 
(and read of) a good number of insufferable ones with the decidedly 
unscientific attitude that "If the facts don't fit the theory, they 
must be disposed of."
jm
> 
> 
> Amara
> 
> 
John Marlow
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