Re: Bill Joy again

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Sun Feb 18 2001 - 14:08:44 MST

"Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
> "J. R. Molloy" wrote:
> >
> > From: "Spike Jones" <>
> > > "I think it is no exaggeration to say we are on the
> > > cusp of the further perfection of extreme evil."
> >
> > Wow, Bill Joy said that? Sounds like the boy has flipped his cork.
> > I think that kind of rhetoric would better suit the Mid East situation,
> > which of course Bill would fix by relinquishment.
> He's perfectly right. As technology advances, so does evil. The thing to
> understand about Bill Joy is that all the threats he refers to are more or
> less real - it's just Bill Joy's unworkable "remedies" that indicate a
> permanent state of future shock, or maybe future panic would be a better
> term. If aliens landed tomorrow, Bill Joy would scream and run around in
> circles, while the Men in Black would ask the aliens for their passports.
> I try to cultivate an MIB attitude.

Unfortunately the rest of us have our work cut out for us by his
efforts. He has been very effective at exploiting multiple media
opportunities. As his speech plays on people's fear he has the easier
hook into motivating large groups of people. Unless we can play on
people's hopes and dreams and do so widely and strongly I think he will
get far more people behind his ideas than we behind ours.

- samantha

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