Re: META: i hope this list is bigger than this issue: control/guns/extremism

From: Joe Dees (
Date: Sat Jan 13 2001 - 15:31:20 MST

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>From: "Michael M. Butler" <>
>Justin Corwin wrote:
>> in my view, weapon technology is weapon technology, whether nanoscale,
>> or macroengineering. if that's to be banned, that sounds fine, but
>> unneccesarily repressive.
>I think the g topic is perhaps emblematic, because since any tool can be
>a weapon (even a butter knife), how such issues are addressed bears on
>how humans will deal with much more potentially hazardous tools, such as
>Project Orion style propulsion systems and strong nt, or even
>self-directed evolution.
>The Mike Lorrey vs Joe Dees flakfest, specifically, is rather a
>set-piece by now, and little news is forthcoming from it. The biggest
>news I've gotten there is that I'm part of the problem. Could have
>fooled me.
>> i dislike unreflective conflict.
>I do, too. I was attempting reflective communication; perhaps I failed.
>I wish I hadn't felt obligated to *PLONK* Mr. Dees. But "guilt by
>association", and reactive crypto-extremism, cut precisely zero ice with
>In any event, welcome. Here's a towel, wipe the blood off, pull up a
>chair and let's talk about something less controversial, like Friendly
>AI or whether philosophy is obsolete. :)
Denial is not a river in Egypt, Mr. Butler, and you're far from the first of that crowd to whine, cry, and ad hominem pooh-pooh others while keeping your eyes and ears firmly shut to your own culpability and actions (such as advertizing with a prefix that you're posting extropianly OFF-TOPIC irrelevancies on-list).

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