Re: Active Shields and one AI, was Re: Paradox--was Re: Active shields etc.

From: Michael M. Butler (
Date: Sat Jan 13 2001 - 02:56:31 MST

Tell you what, you stop saying it and I'll stop saying you did. Deal?

> Subject: Re: Paradox--was Re: Active shields, was Re: Criticism depth, was Re: Homework, Nuke, etc..
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:40:57 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Marlow <>
> Reply-To:
> To:
> Yes; precisely. My read on, for instance, Drexler's
> active shield concept is that we hand over
> peacekeeping tasks to an AI which is equipped with
> weapons superior to all others.

Like me, you appear to not always re-read what you write. Yes, you say
"my read", but consider what you say after that. When you call it
"_Drexler's_ active shield concept", you imply that he wrote in this

If it wasn't in _EoC_ that he said it, where was it?

If you meant something more like "my extrapolation of how a widely
distributed immune system modeled after Drexler's active shield concept,
implemented under central control ('_an AI_')...", you could have said
so. If you didn't mean that, perhaps I misunderstood.

But on my reading of what you actually wrote: you are indicating Drexler
thinks what you do. "My read on <Person>'s <x>" means, generally, "My
interpretation of what <Person> says/intends". Does it not? BTW, where I
come from, "my take" is different from "my read".

(Do I HAVE to re-read all your posts? No, I can use search tools. Just
as you ought to be able to. Class, for your exercise, find a
machine-readable copy of _EoC_ on the Web, download the relevant
chapters if necessary, and use automated string search for "active" and

John Marlow wrote:
> Do I HAVE to read Engines again? Tell you what--you
> point out to me where I said EoC says that, and I'll
> go look.
> john marlow
> --- "Michael M. Butler" <> wrote:
> > I'm still looking forward to your showing just where
> > in _EoC_ it says
> > that all active shields would be under the central
> > control of a single
> > AI. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough. Please help
> > me on this one.
> >
> > John Marlow wrote:
> >
> > > Sheep do not labor to build better wolves.
> >
> > Very true. But do not humans labor to build better
> > children?
> >
> > Fallibly,
> >
> > MMB
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