Re: Surveilance was: Transhuman fascists?

From: Zero Powers (
Date: Wed Mar 29 2000 - 17:57:51 MST

>From: Dan Fabulich <>

> > >From: Dan Fabulich <>
> > >This is *excessively* naive. How could you know if data was important
> > >not without analzying it? Important information doesn't come
> > >in red, you know.
> >
> > Again, the technology is not yet in place so I do have difficulty
> > it with minute particularity, but: You could set your own parameters.
> > instance my preferences list will say something like:
> >
> > "Notify me whenever:
> >
> > (1) someone accesses any of my banking data;
> >
> > (2) one of my listed sworn enemies (a) purchases a weapon (b) comes
> > 200 yards of my person (c) comes within two blocks of my house (d)
> > any of my data or (e) speaks my name; and
> >
> > (3) anyone is watching me by remote surveillance.
>This might not seem like a lot of work, but we don't have a computer today
>that's capable of detecting anything you list in (2) without a human
>pre-analyzing the data.

I never said the system should or could be implemented "today." AI could
very well solve this problem. Even so, I don't think it would really be
that difficult to solve even with today's technology. My list of sworn
enemies would be finite (quite small actually). You could do it with sets
of software agents. One agent assigned to follow each of the enemies on my
list. When any one enemy did one of the trigger events, the agent merely
reports back. Would that really be so difficult to engineer? I don't think

>Now keep in mind that even if we did, the
>computer would have to be checking millions of different screens all at
>once, and you can see that this project does, indeed, require quite a lot
>of computational power. Without it, having access to the feeds is

I think the problem is that you are thinking of the system as "the
computer." Sure it would have to be one *massively* parallel box to handle
all those requests and all that data. But guess what? Coming soon to a
planet under you will be a distributed network of intelligent devices of all
kinds. Think intelligent, networked, and communicating observation and
reporting hardware devices, think innumerable software agents all reporting
back to you according to your instructions, think distributed networked
computing, think "system" as opposed to "the computer" and it should be
easier to grasp.

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