Re: Transhuman fascists?

From: Michael S. Lorrey (retroman@turbont.net)
Date: Mon Mar 27 2000 - 20:28:46 MST


Zero Powers wrote:
>
> >From: "Technotranscendence" <neptune@mars.superlink.net>
>
> > > According to Michael S. Lorrey I'm a fascist. But I think his is a very
> > > broad definition of that term.
> >
> >How would you define it? How would you claim Michael defines it? How are
> >you not one? Why would Michael think you are one?
>
> I define a "fascist" as one who advocates a system of government marked by
> centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic
> controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and a
> policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
>
> Michael has never given (to my knowledge) his definition of a fascist, but
> he has alluded to the fact that he considers me to be one.
>
> I am not a fascist because I don't advocate fascism.
>
> My guess is that Michael thinks I'm a fascist because I am in favor of gun
> control and ubiquitous transparancy.

Considering that you also beleive that people are entitled to
'equitable' distribution of other peoples property (i.e. the food a
farmer produces should be taken from him at cost), this indicates some
socialist leanings. That you are for total surveillance of everyone,
including politically incorrect and/or subversive characters (whether
its everyone or just a small controlling group that controls the system
is irrelevant), and the confiscation of people's abilities to defend
themselves against thugs (individual or governmental), which are both
policies used by fascists to hold onto power and eliminate opposition,
indicates to me that you lean toward the policies espoused by a
political party once known as the National Socialist Workers Party. Your
only saving grace is that so far as I can tell, you wish to oppress
everyone equally, rather than just on minority you'd prefer to pick on
(then again, you've said a lot of things denigrating white undereducated
males living in rural areas, so maybe you do have those leanings as
well), but thats not much of a positive feature. Arguments you've made
on this list show that you support a minimum of 2/3 of the planks on the
platform found in the Communist Manifesto.

You can protest all you want, but its your own words that have placed
you in this category. If you don't like that people see you as placing
yourself in this category, then maybe you need to really examine what
you beleive. Any time you find yourself saying,"I beleive that people
should have this freedom, but....." check yourself. Its that 'but' that
kills.



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