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>Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:00:22 -0500
>To: extropians@extropy.com
>From: Ian Goddard <Ian@Goddard.net>
>Subject: Re: Waco Test Shows "OBVIOUS GUNFIRE"
>Reply-To: extropians@extropy.com
>
>At 06:38 PM 03/20/2000 -0800, Joe Dees wrote:
>
>>Yeah, the conspiracy grows: now it's that commie CNN, the creation of that
>arch-villain Ted Turncoat, fornicator of Hanoi Jane, that is spinning this
>in the fascist jackbooted thug direction. Self-contradictory piffle!
>Objectivity is not something that anyone on this list can reasonably expect
>from you on this issue, Ian. Your entire study of it has been for the
>express purpose of advocating your preinvested position.
>
>
> IAN: When facts and physics fail to support your
> preconceived notions, go for the personal attacks.
> Just because I oppose the initiation of aggression
> doesn't mean I'm incapable of accurate observation,
> in fact, the facts unfolding before us confirm that
> what I've been posting for years on Waco is accurate.
>
Time, and the independent reviewer, will tell, if you can accept the verdict.
>
> Contrary to the nature of your argumentation, the
> test of the accuracy of a person's claims is not
> based on a person's concept of ethical association,
> but on the correlation of that person's claims to
> the physical world. In that venue, you've completely
> failed to support your implication of inaccuracy.
>
As you have your assertion of accuracy. It is all still up in the air. If you consider the government to be the devil here, then consider me to be the devil's advocate (eveyone deserves one).
>
> It's not a surprise then that you appear to think
> that simply framing the claim that CNN supports the
> Govt as an inherently crazy claim constitutes a
> meaningful statement about the subject. Ridicule
> is not argument and shouldn't be confused with it.
>
Reductio ad absurdum has its place.
>
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>WACO PROTEST: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/waco-1.htm
>========================================================
>
> "There are times when you cannot keep your job and
> put alternative explanations for data on the table."
> Former FBI Special Agent Dr. Frederic Whitehurst
>
>
>
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