Re: [GUNS] Re: g*n c*ntr*l

From: Joe E. Dees (joedees@bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed Mar 15 2000 - 15:53:38 MST


Date sent: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:56:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian D Williams <talon57@well.com>
To: extropians@extropy.org
Subject: [GUNS] Re: g*n c*ntr*l
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>
> From: "Zero Powers" <zero_powers@hotmail.com>
>
> >>From: Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com>
>
> >> 1) It is illegal for the mentally incompetent to own or possess
> >> firearms.
>
> >Where is that law found?
>
> >From "A citizens guide to Federal Firearms Laws" at www.nraila.org
>
> Ineligible Persons:
>
> The following classes of people are ineligible to possess, receive,
> ship, or transport firearms or ammunition.
>
> -- Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for over
> one year, except state misdemeanors punishable by two years or
> less.
>
> -- fugitives from justice
>
> --Unlawful users of certain depressant, narcotic, or stimulant
> drugs
>
> --Those adjudicated as mental defectives or incompetents or those
> committed to any mental institution
>
> --Illegal Aliens
>
> --Citizens who have renounced their citizenship
>
> -- Those persons dishonorably discharged from the military
>
> --Persons less than 18 years of age for the purchase of a shotgun
> or rifle
>
> -- Persons less than 21 years of age for the purchase of a firearm
> that is other than a shotgun or rifle
>
> --Persons subject to a court order that restrains such persons from
> harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner
>
> -- Persons convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of
> domestic violence
>
Most of these seem like reasonable restrictions to me, but without
an immediately accessible purchase-prohibited list (say, online and
by 1-800 number) and the requirement for all public and private
sellers, including gun shows, markets and pawn shops, to check it
before sale, the law is unenforceable. I have no problem with insta-
check as long as it is thorough. Abuses of the information and
"fishing expeditions" could be constrained by requiring both buyer
and seller to request access before it is granted; driver's
license/state I.D. and/or SSN should be sufficient to prove that both
are indeed requesting same. Also, the retention of copies of bills
of sale or purchase receipts should be required for both buyer and
seller, to provide confirmation that the firearm did indeed transfer to
the approved party rather than another.
>
> Brian
>
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